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by JEA
Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:05 pm
Forum: Basement HQ
Topic: Not a police matter
Replies: 58
Views: 2401

Re: Not a police matter

The problem is when "something should be done" , but there's no one else to do it. When all other agencies say no, or don't work outside office hours, we can't (or won't) say no. I think your example boils down to a weak call taker who didn't want to upset the caller (policing pledge, customer focus...
by JEA
Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:45 am
Forum: Basement HQ
Topic: Comebacks after being abused by Joe Public
Replies: 30
Views: 2646

Re: Comebacks after being abused by Joe Public

"you're not even a proper copper" "well you're not acting much like a proper human being, more like a strategically shaved ape" ------ I also find a "see you later" with a smile and a wink makes them think you know something they don't. ------- I've also had one young prolific scrote cockily say he ...
by JEA
Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:06 pm
Forum: Front door
Topic: New case law sec 17 powers
Replies: 6
Views: 279

New case law sec 17 powers

If your force is like mine, you'll use sec 17 to gain entry to premises for concerns for welfare. Elderly and infirm person hasn't been seen for days, can't be traced, won't answer the door etc... This has saved lives in my force, but the following case law on PNLD may mean you are not acting in the...
by JEA
Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:01 pm
Forum: Front door
Topic: Section 30 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009
Replies: 6
Views: 226

Re: Section 30 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009

I've found the sec 17 case law on PNLD on my PDA, have started a new thread for it.

http://policecommunitysupportofficer.co ... =6&t=16017
by JEA
Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:27 pm
Forum: Front door
Topic: Section 30 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009
Replies: 6
Views: 226

Re: Section 30 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009

Oh, and I also noticed some new case law on sec 17 PACE powers Was that referenced on PNLD too? Might be an important one for others to read and pass on, if you can provide the reference. Thanks. Yes it was on PNLD, maybe I should have put this on a separate thread (don't suppose a moderator wants ...
by JEA
Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:40 am
Forum: Front door
Topic: Section 30 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009
Replies: 6
Views: 226

Re: Section 30 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009

Oh, and I also noticed some new case law on sec 17 PACE powers that clarifies the phrase "to safe life and limb". A welfare concern or suspicion is deemed not to meet this criteria!!!!! So if an elderly person hasn't been seen for a couple of days, can't be traced, and won't answer the door, we have...
by JEA
Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:36 am
Forum: Front door
Topic: Section 30 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009
Replies: 6
Views: 226

Section 30 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009

Sorry if this has already been covered, couldn't find it on the site. I found this while looking something up on PNLD. It came into effect on 29th Jan 2010. No one I've spoken to knew about it, so I thought I'd spread the knowledge as it looks like a powerful tool, especially for NPT's. More info on...
by JEA
Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:52 pm
Forum: Front door
Topic: PRAYING CAN CRACK CRIME
Replies: 3
Views: 118

Re: PRAYING CAN CRACK CRIME

It's not April is it???????
by JEA
Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:50 pm
Forum: Front door
Topic: The Daily Fail
Replies: 8
Views: 231

Re: The Daily Fail

Perhaps a better way to reduce overtime spend (rather than asking officers to 'consider' the financial implications when deciding the necessity for arrest) would be to reduce the time it takes to deal with an arrest!
by JEA
Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:47 am
Forum: Front door
Topic: Police Federation
Replies: 25
Views: 442

Re: Police Federation

I for one would NOT trust the Fed to represent me. Not after the level of PCSO bashing that went on in the past. And especially since the change in policy seems to be directly linked to their own funding rather than my best interests or those of the organisation. Although, I'd be interested to see h...
by JEA
Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:44 am
Forum: Front door
Topic: PCSO the new butler service
Replies: 15
Views: 459

Re: PCSO the new butler service

Just for the record, I would NOT have done it either!! Cheeky mare!
by JEA
Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:21 pm
Forum: Front door
Topic: Policing White Paper
Replies: 28
Views: 983

Re: Policing White Paper

AFAIK it's an offence for an under 18 to be in posession of a firework, and there is a power for a PC to confiscate it. I personally can't see anything wrong with a PCSO confiscating them, on the basis that you're preventing a crime from taking place. I'm sure others will disagree though :slsm: . I...
by JEA
Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:46 am
Forum: Front door
Topic: Gordon Brown's speach at Labour Conference
Replies: 4
Views: 205

Re: Gordon Brown's speach at Labour Conference

We've been holding these meetings for years, along with Surgeries. They're crap. The same people with a bee in their bonnet turn up each time to make sure their interests are looked after, you just don't get a true representation of people's feelings on the area. We're doing street consultations now...
by JEA
Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:28 am
Forum: Front door
Topic: PCSO and the POWERS
Replies: 15
Views: 394

Re: PCSO and the POWERS

Thing is... under common law regarding assisting a constable in lawfull arrest etc makes a PCSO (or anyone) usefull in terms of person control... however! In Lancs PCSOs aren't used at football matches because its a public order scenario. The potential for violence is so great that PCSO's just aren...
by JEA
Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:05 pm
Forum: Front door
Topic: Credit where it's due...........
Replies: 8
Views: 260

Re: Credit where it's due...........

I had to vote 'mostly' as there was no "every single time" option. There's no way of recording a PCSO's involvement in my force.

Even when I issue a PND, I have to pick which PC gets the detection!