Covert PCSOs?

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mj12cz
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Post by mj12cz » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:19 pm

indpen wrote:The PCSO's role of Public re assurance is only temporal. without the ability to PROTECT AND SERVE the long term effect is negative. No tools to do the job and the public, who are not as stupid as the government hoped, will eventualy take to the streets themselves....dear of them.

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Post by Guest » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:03 pm

I am a PCSO, i see no point for us to be in plain clothes. What difference would it make???????

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Post by Jimmy_bobby » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:31 pm

micky wrote:Jimmy

in law there is no difference between a police witness and any other witness. The term professional witness is not used.

Certain witnesses are what are called expert witnesses. These are people who give evidence on a subject in which they are experts such as doctors or scientists.

If you witnessed something whilst off duty and were later required to give evidence, I would take advice from your line manager as to whether you should be paid for attending. If you're being paid you should go in uniform. If you are not being paid you should go in normal clothes

I would imagine that different forces would each have their own way of looking at such an issue.

PCSOs should not be used in plain clothes operations.

It’s my understanding that Police Officers are classed as professional witnesses/expert witnesses in terms of alcohol intoxication, i.e. their evidence that in their opinion the person in question was drunk is classed as expert evidence.

Am I wrong here?

I’ve been told (when I worked an attachment to the ASBO Team), that in the eyes of the court giving evidence for ASBO application, I am considered a professional witness.

It also mentions this ‘professional witness’ comment on the following websites, have a read:


http://www.cleveland.police.uk/policing ... bution.htm

http://www.northants.police.uk/default. ... e&ID=10654

http://www.buckscc.gov.uk/bcc/content/i ... 1367320733

http://www.respect.gov.uk/members/article.aspx?id=8458

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/tm_headl ... _page.html

They all use the wording for PCSOs as ‘professional witnesses’.

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Post by jedrick999 » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:33 pm

I must say if as a PCSO i could do plain clothes work i would take them up on the offer!! could mingle in very well with the students on my patch and at the uni! The p's did do one op at the uni but most ofthem stuck outlike a sore thumb 8) :wink:

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