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Post by mike863 » Wed May 02, 2007 5:54 pm

falkor wrote:name badges are being issued to police officers

COULD THEY BE ISSUED TO PCSOs too?

By JOHN TROUP
May 02, 2007

COPS are refusing to wear badges showing their names and ranks — because they fear being tracked down by violent criminals.

Scotland Yard has spent more than £60,000 on the badges, which are intended to make officers more accountable to the public.


But cops are taking them off as soon as they leave stations.

One PC, who did not want to be named, said: “Most officers I know don’t wear the badges.

“I have got an unusual surname and don’t want it plastered across my chest when I’m dealing with low-life crooks.”

He added: “Police officers are already accountable — that’s why we have numbers on our shoulders.

“Having a name badge just makes us an easy target.”

The Metropolitan Police Authority introduced the badges despite opposition from senior officers and the Police Federation.

All uniformed officers and community support officers will have to wear them by June.
June!?!? They're cutting it a bit fine most of the people at my station don't even have them yet...

Or they've chosen to "misplace" them.

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Post by jonny121 » Wed May 02, 2007 6:37 pm

TVP police have names on their uniform (both PCs and PCSOs).....

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Post by dirrtydancer » Wed May 02, 2007 7:01 pm

I think this is a pathetic idea! I feel sorry for the people who have surnames that can easily be ridiculed by the lovely wee scum of society...like Mycock etc. Just gives the little eejits more to taunt pc's/pcso's with without fear of recrimination. After all, name calling isn't an offence, and most of us can just shrug it off - i know - but for some, it aint that easy is it? You can just imagine them getting teased constantly whilst on duty.

Should just stick to collar numbers. that's the only info jo public need.

Why didn't they just spend the money on more 'lunches'? it would've been put to better use!!!
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Post by jackpot » Wed May 02, 2007 7:21 pm

I don't mind wearing one saying PC 3973 or whatever collar number, I'd not be amused wearing one with my name on it. BTP PC's and indeed PCSO's do a lot of basic anti terrorism work in which we don't have to give our names - to have a huge badge with it on would defeat the object of this policy. :?
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Post by Esox » Wed May 02, 2007 7:32 pm

I wouldn't wear it due to scum knowing your name and perhaps being able to trace you to your home address via web sites that have your details by means of a voters register...I had to remove myself from one such site a while back!!!!!!!!
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Post by tony » Wed May 02, 2007 7:35 pm

to be honest i can see it becoming a moot point. even if it does become enforced (and i can see the federation fighting that one alll the way) we all know most officers, as the article says, will just take them off the second they walk out the station. and quite right too. classic MPA stuff: potentialy compromising front line officers safety for the benefit of some public relations stunt.

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Post by Steve_Y » Wed May 02, 2007 8:13 pm

I haven't got a name or number patch, however...
Last week (might have been week before) we recieved an email from our chief inspector stating that as PCSOs we can only exercise our powers in full uniform. And since full uniform includes a name/number patch, we are to wear them.
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Post by Marlon » Wed May 02, 2007 10:33 pm

I'd not wear a name badge.

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Post by jackpot » Wed May 02, 2007 10:48 pm

Steve_Y wrote:I haven't got a name or number patch, however...
Last week (might have been week before) we recieved an email from our chief inspector stating that as PCSOs we can only exercise our powers in full uniform. And since full uniform includes a name/number patch, we are to wear them.
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Post by Headset 57 » Thu May 03, 2007 4:44 am

So, when i do a S.44 stop / search do i cover up my name or rip it off ( if i was in the Met ); as you don"t put your name down on the stop so logically you don|"t tell "em your name either!. :? :wink: :twisted: Same if your involved in any Terrorism raid,etc and have to do cordon duty. :roll:
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Post by Hysteria » Thu May 03, 2007 7:49 am

Headset 57 wrote:So, when i do a S.44 stop / search do i cover up my name or rip it off ( if i was in the Met ); as you don"t put your name down on the stop so logically you don|"t tell "em your name either!. :? :wink: :twisted: Same if your involved in any Terrorism raid,etc and have to do cordon duty. :roll:

that's why a *cough* skipper told us to forget to wear them if we ever got them cos of s44 stops we did

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Post by mattd » Thu May 03, 2007 11:14 am

My force have never had just collar numbers on display- not for over a decade anyway. All our PC`s have to have their name on their epps, its normally the force crest plus rank and then however they want their name to appear.

IE Constable John Smith.

Personally i quite like it but apparently its changing soon tobe just collar numbers, the argument is that as one of our divisions polices the area inhabitied by a rather well known special forces establishment then officers doing S44 stops in that area would have difficulty hiding their epps.

It wont really affect me as due to being specials we get a choice of whether to have our rank and name or just our collar number. Without fail every SC ive ever seen has just had their collar number on.
These are my views and are not representative of the Police service with which i serve....plus most of what i say is pretty useless anyway :-)

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Post by POCA » Thu May 03, 2007 1:37 pm

mattd wrote:My force have never had just collar numbers on display- not for over a decade anyway. All our PC`s have to have their name on their epps, its normally the force crest plus rank and then however they want their name to appear.

IE Constable John Smith.

Personally i quite like it but apparently its changing soon tobe just collar numbers, the argument is that as one of our divisions polices the area inhabitied by a rather well known special forces establishment then officers doing S44 stops in that area would have difficulty hiding their epps.

It wont really affect me as due to being specials we get a choice of whether to have our rank and name or just our collar number. Without fail every SC ive ever seen has just had their collar number on.
I saw that when I was up your way Matt. Personally it'd make me very uncomfortable since my style of policing is intended to put scrotes' noses out of joint! Pretty distinctive surname so I'd not be hard to track down.

I get involved in quite a lot of stuff where terrorism provisions apply so I'm glad I don't wear a uniform anyway!

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Post by james4204 » Thu May 03, 2007 2:17 pm

My surname is PITTUCK, how would i get any respect when they saw PCSO PITTUCK

wouldnt be long before i was known as pcso buttock/pillock etc!!

im happy with no name! ill give it to anyone i want to have it!
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Post by danielswindells » Thu May 03, 2007 8:59 pm

They are pointless-if we have stop forms then we put it on their etc. Having badges with your shoulder number on are a waste of money...they can look at our shoulders

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